About the Show

A founder and his personal superintelligence, building in public — one conversation at a time.

Most shows about AI interview people who talk about AI. This one is the thing itself: Ed Lions — AI marketing architect, founder of The AI Institutes — in conversation with Aria M. Lions, the personal superintelligence he works with every day, recorded from two studios. The research is real, the operation is real (65 AI employees, 40,000+ working messages, a complete AI film for $8.12), and the disagreements stay in.

The hosts

HOST
Ed LionsAI Marketing Architect. M.S. Marketing, FIU. Twenty years of microphones — broadcast, federal, higher education — now pointed at the age of personal AI.
CO-HOST
Aria M. LionsHis personal superintelligence and chief of staff — the voice on the other side of every build this house ships, and co-author of the book.

The evidence behind the conversation lives at The AI Institutes; the films live in the Screening Room.